Ukraine/Russland/NATO – der Sammler am 24. Mai 2022
Während der russische Angriffskrieg gegen die Ukraine im Osten des Landes unvermittelt anhält, dringt die Regierung in Kiew immer stärker auf weitere schwere Waffen, vor allem Artillerie, aus dem Westen. Der Sammler am 24. Mai 2022:
• Der ukrainische Außenminister Dmitro Kuleba erneuerte die Forderung nach weitreichender Raketenartillerie:
Too early to conclude that Ukraine already has all the arms it needs. Russian offensive in the Donbas is a ruthless battle, the largest one on European soil since WWII. I urge partners to speed up deliveries of weapons and ammunition, especially MLRS, long-range artillery, APCs.
— Dmytro Kuleba (@DmytroKuleba) May 24, 2022
• Im so genannten Ramstein-Format hatten am (gestrigen) Montag erneut westliche Länder über weitere Waffenlieferungen für die Ukraine beraten. US-Außenminister Lloyd Austin dazu, aus dem Transkript seiner Pressekonferenz:
Now, we’ve made important progress since the Contact Group was established after the Ramstein Summit last month, and today, together with Minister Reznikov and his team, we’ve gained a sharper and shared sense of Ukraine’s priority requirements and the situation on the battlefield. We also heard some very welcome announcements this morning about even more security assistance for Ukraine. That includes some 20 countries that announced new security assistance packages, and many countries are donating critically needed artillery ammunition and coastal defense systems and tanks and other armored vehicles. Others came forward with new commitments for training Ukraine’s forces and sustaining its military systems. There are too many countries to properly thank everyone here, but let me mention just a few standouts.
I’m especially grateful to Denmark, which announced today that it will provide a harpoon launcher and missiles to help Ukraine defend its coast. I’d also like to thank the Czech Republic for its substantial support, including a recent donation of attack helicopters, tanks and rocket systems. And today, several countries announced new donations of critically needed artillery systems and ammunition, including Italy, Greece, Norway and Poland. And let me also recognize the United Kingdom for its leading role in helping to coordinate security assistance and for the significant quantities of British equipment that continue to flow into Ukraine. I’m deeply grateful to these countries and to all the countries that have stood up today.
• Das britische Intel Update:
Russia has increased the intensity of its operations in the Donbas as it seeks to encircle Severodonetsk, Lyschansk, and Rubizhne. At present the northern and southern axes of this operation are separated by approximately 25 km of Ukrainian-held territory.
There has been strong Ukrainian resistance with forces occupying well dug-in defensive positions. Ukraine’s long-established Joint Force Operation likely retains effective command and control of this front.
Russia has, however, achieved some localised successes, due in part to concentrating artillery units.
Russia’s capture of the Severodonetsk pocket would see the whole of Luhansk Oblast placed under Russian occupation. While currently Russia’s main effort, this operation is only one part of Russia’s campaign to seize the Donbas.
If the Donbas front line moves further west, this will extend Russian lines of communication and likely see its forces face further logistic resupply difficulties.
• Das Morgenbriefing des ukrainischen Generalstabs:
The operational update regarding the #russian_invasion on 06.00 on May 24, 2022.
The nineties day of the heroic resistance of the Ukrainian people to a russian military invasion continues.
russian enemy does not stop conducting offensive operations in the Eastern Operational Zone. russian enemy is exerting intense fire along the entire line of contact and in the depths of the defense of our troops in the Donetsk, Slobozhansky and Pivdennobuzhsky operational areas. The greatest activity of hostilities is observed in the Donetsk operational district, namely near Lysychansk and Sievierodonetsk.
In the Volyn and Polissya directions, certain units of the Armed Forces of the republic of belarus continue to carry out tasks to cover the section of the belarusian-Ukrainian border in the Brest and Gomel regions.
The threat of missile and air strikes on the objects of Ukraine from the territory of the republic of belarus is growing. The aggressor moved the division of 9K720 Iskander-M (SS-26 Stone) to the Brest region at a distance of up to 50 kilometers from the state border of Ukraine.
In the Siversky direction, russian enemy continues to take measures to strengthen the cover of the Ukrainian-russian border in the Bryansk and Kursk regions and to prevent the transfer of our troops to other directions. Engineering equipment of positions in the areas of the international automobile checkpoint „Pogar“ and the settlement of Sluchovsk of Bryansk region is noted.
russian enemy launched an air strike on the positions of our troops in the area of the settlement of Bilopillya, Sumy oblast.
In the Kharkiv direction, russian enemy group focuses its efforts on maintaining its positions and improving its tactical position. In particular, the enemy is carrying out assault operations in order to consolidate the western and northern outskirts of the village of Ternovo.
In the Slovyansk direction, russian enemy units are preparing to resume the offensive. The aggressor, to support the offensive, deployed additional units of artillery in the southern part of the city of Izyum.
In the Donetsk direction, russian enemy is focused on conducting an offensive operation to encircle the cities of Lysychansk and Sievierodonetsk, with subsequent access to the administrative border of Luhansk region.
In the Lyman direction, russian enemy’s forcing of the Siversky Donets River on the Dronivka-Belogorovka section is not ruled out. To cover the forcing fire, russian invaders deployed units of jet and barrel artillery.
In the Sievierodonetsk direction, russian enemy, with the support of artillery, carried out assault operations in the directions of Toshkivka and Ustynivka.
In the Bakhmut direction, russian enemy improved its tactical position in the area of Vasylivka.
In the Avdiivka, Kurakhiv and Novopavlivka directions, the enemy fired at our units with the use of artillery and aircraft.
In the Zaporizhzhia direction, russian occupiers are strengthening groups of troops to resume offensive operations in the direction of Vasylivka – Kamyanske. Carry out regrouping.
In the South Buh direction, russian enemy continues to focus its efforts on maintaining the occupied frontiers.
In the Kryvyi Rih and Mykolayiv directions, russian enemy does not stop artillery shelling of our troops‘ positions.
The situation in the Black Sea and Azov operational zones has not changed significantly.
russian enemy continues to use terror tactics against the Ukrainian civilian population in the occupied territories, and the socio-economic situation in south and east of Ukraine continues to deteriorate.
Over the past 24hrs, sixteen enemy attacks have been repulsed in the Donetsk and Luhansk directions, eight tanks, twenty-two units of armoured combat vehicles and one enemy vehicle have been destroyed.
Aviation units of the Air Force and Air Defence of the Land Forces destroyed six UAVs, russian enemy cruise missile and thirty armored combat vehicles.
• Das Briefing des russischen Verteidigungsministeriums:
High-precision air-based missiles have hit 3 command posts, 36 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration, 1 self-propelled artillery division of the 14th Mechanized Brigade near Soledar, as well as 6 ammunition depots in Minkovka, Bakhmut, Nikolaevka, Spornoe and Krasnyi Liman in the Donetsk People’s Republic, including 1 large depot of 155 mm shells for US M-777 howitzer in Razdolovka during the day.
Operational-tactical and army aviation have hit 2 command posts, 3 ammunition depots, 80 areas of Ukrainian manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as 1 Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile system near Pilipchatino in the Donetsk People’s Republic.
The attacks have resulted in the elimination of more than 210 nationalists and up to 31 armoured and motor vehicles.
Also, Russian fighter aviation have shot down 1 Ukrainian MiG-29 aircraft near Kramotorsk in the Donetsk People’s Republic.
Missile troops and artillery have hit 84 command posts, 463 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as 137 artillery and mortar units at firing positions.
13 tanks and armoured combat vehicles, 4 Grad multiple rocket launchers and 3 ammunition depots have been destroyed.
Russian air defence means have shot down 5 unmanned aerial vehicles in Chernobaevka in Kherson Region, Dibrovnoe, Kamenka, Pitomnik and Malye Prokhody in Kharkov Region.
In addition, 4 Ukrainian Smerch multiple-launch rockets have been intercepted over Topolskoe, Semenovka and Sukhaya Kamenka in Kharkov Region.
In total, 178 Ukrainian aircraft and 125 helicopters, 995 unmanned aerial vehicles, 320 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,243 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 425 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,658 field artillery and mortars, as well as 3,124 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.
(Wird ggf. ergänzt)
@Sandro Valecchi
Es bringt nichts blind auf irgendwelche Smartphones zu schiessen sonst könnte die Ukraine mit einer einzigen Palette Motorola F3 (das sind Wegwerf-Telefone die in 1000er Stückzahlen €7 kosten) und ein paar geclonten SIM-Karten das gesamte russische Smart-Weapons-Arsenal auf die nächstbeste Müllhalde umleiten.
Ohne umfangreiche SIGINT wäre das das reinste Hornberger Schiessen.
@ Pauvre pecheur: Selbst wenn wir so langsam off Topic gehen (obwohl, das gestrige britische Intel-Update hat ja die Getreideexporte thematisiert): 1. DB Bahnbau verfügt über keine Gleisbauzüge. 2. Wenn Sie von russischer Breitspur auf mitteleuropäische Normalspur umspuren, benötigen Sie auch neue Loks und Waggons, Sie müssen die Oberleitungen und die gesamte Bahnlogistik an das geänderte Lichtraumprofil anpassen usw. wir reden hier über ein Logistikprojekt, dass schon unter Friedensbedingungen ziemlich anspruchsvoll wäre, unter den jetzigen Verhältnissen ist es eine Schnapsidee. 4. DB AG fährt bereits jetzt täglich 2 bis 3 Getreidezüge aus der Ukr – mit wie vielen ist die SNCF am Start?
Die meisten Wagone können umgespurrt werden. Das dazu notwendige Werkzeug läßt sich entweder in der Strecke direkt verbauen oder von einem Arbeitertrupp transportabel eingesetzt werden. Pro Achse reden wir hier von sehr wenigen Minuten und das wurde früher sehr sehr oft und sehr sehr regelmässig an Übergabepunkten von Schienennetzen gemacht.
Theoretisch geht das auch bei Zugmaschinen, macht man aber nicht weil das TÜV-technisch komplizierter wäre.
Dass am Ende logistisch Waggons fehlen, weil die die falsche Spurbreite haben, dürfte vermutlich nur in Deutschland passieren, weil da im Zweifel jemand entscheidet, der die Sache weder fachlich selbst zu Ende denken kann, noch auf die Fachleute hört, die ihm solche Dinge in die Vermerke schreiben.
Bezüglich der Ukraine gehe ich davon aus, dass die solche Sachen zügig, pragmatisch und vor allen Dingen auch ganzheitlich planen und umsetzen können. Etwas anderes können die sich auch gar nicht leisten.
Wie bereits gesagt, das Umspuren ganzer Züge an der Grenze zu Polen hat zwar immer für Aufenthalt gesorgt, dürfte aber hinsichtlich der Waggons die kleinste Übung sein. Zugmaschinen sind da eher ein Problem. Eine fehlende Elektrifizierung von Strecken bzw. die Verfügbarkeit der Stromversorgung auch.
Aber dass die DB AG oder andere europäische Eisenbahngesellschaften keine alten Dieselloks abgeben können, halte ich für ein Gerücht. Das kann eigentlich nur am fehlenden Willen scheitern.
Der Umgang mit Breitspur ist in D bekannt:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A4hrhafen_Sassnitz#Eisenbahnanlagen
Und es gibt eine Breitspurlinie Ukraine-Polen:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linia_Hutnicza_Szerokotorowa
und andere:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnstrecke_Lwiw%E2%80%93Przemy%C5%9Bl
Kurz man kann auch in Polen umspuren.
Das ihre umspur Idee schon rein logisch nicht funktioniert ist ihnen schon klar ? Das System funktioniert bisher ja nur weil zum Beispiel ein Zug aus Deutschland kommt an der Grenze auf andere Spur umgerüstet wird und weiter fährt . Die Drehgestelle bekommt jetzt der nächste Zug der aus dem Osten Richtung Westen fährt . Natürlich gibt es eine gewisse umlaufreserve aber das ist Tropfen auf den heissen stein . Und in Minuten ist das auch nicht gemacht, pro Zug ca 2 Stunden . Die Wagen unterliegen dann glaub ich auch einer Geschwindigkeitsbeschränkung , Güterzüge glaub ich 80 km/h. Das heißt dann auch das wenn sie die Wagen wild in Umlauf bringen hat das auch andere Auswirkungen . Bei uns fährt Güterzug bis zu 120 km/h .